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the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? husband. loving father to your children. but first you've got to get him to say, "hello." new crest 3d white arctic fresh toothpaste. use it with these 3d white products, and whiten your teeth in just 2 days. what will a 3d white smile do for you? new crest 3d white toothpaste. life opens up when you do. you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no
the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? husband. loving father to your children. but...
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certainly it's not the nra. these senators should not fear the national rifle association. the nra didn't affect any races in the last election cycle and it probably won't do it the next time around. now, if senate democrats cannot get over the hump of losing their a rating from the national rifle association, folks, this gun legislation, it isn't going to go anywhere. senator al flanken en franken of minnesota is another democratic lawmaker who was somewhat puzzling in the last 24 hours who decided to clarify his position. he says, "i co-sponsored legislation to ban large clips like those used in so many mass shootings," he said in a statement. "i also support the principle that we should reinstate a ban on assault weapons. and i will carefully review any proposal to do that." in principle. can we get some straight talk? because that in principle kind of thing leaves a little wiggle room that maybe you might not do it, al. there are other senate democrats ready to vote right now. there are multiple democrats sponsoring their own legislation. a background check bill from se
certainly it's not the nra. these senators should not fear the national rifle association. the nra didn't affect any races in the last election cycle and it probably won't do it the next time around. now, if senate democrats cannot get over the hump of losing their a rating from the national rifle association, folks, this gun legislation, it isn't going to go anywhere. senator al flanken en franken of minnesota is another democratic lawmaker who was somewhat puzzling in the last 24 hours who...
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the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our daughter's school supplies and taking them to work? no, i was just looking for my stapler and my... this thing. i save money by using fedex ground and buy my own supplies. that's a great idea. i'm going to go... we got clients in today. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping at fedex office. [ male announcer ] save on ground shipping living with moderate to semeans living with pain.is it could also mean living with joint damage. humira, adalimumab, can help treat more than just the pain. for many adults, humira is clinically proven to help relieve pain and stop further joint damage. humira can lower
the divide between most gun owners and the nra leadership and the more active members of the nra is that something that they believe but only say in the selective environment is they want to have enough fire power to fight police and military forces. >> frank smyth thank you for joining me tonight. some more unmasking of the nr are a is next. tom sellek has been with the nra for years. is he a man of courage or does he just play one on tv? what are you doing? nothing. are you stealing our...
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show moderation, you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz, are right out in front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize-winning columnist. thank you both for joining us. you have been in this fight for so long, congresswoman mccarthy. i have to ask you, is there something out there in the water that's changed or are we confronting the old power of the nra? >> well, certainly we are confronting them. we'll always be able to confront them, but this time is different, and i think that the american people are realizing on how radical they actually are. you know, when you see the polls, most people in america support what we're trying to do, even nra members, so that this time is different. i th
show moderation, you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz, are right out in front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize-winning columnist....
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and i don't think it's too surprising nra still opposed to any form of gun control. i actually thought that wayne lapierre's testimony which i have also seen is interesting because he seemed to back off some of the more incendiary rhetoric of other forums, most notably, the initial press conference lashing out at the left and the media and everybody else and peek like the hecklers in the hearing and don't speak for the republican party and don't speak for the nra but it's sort of a piece with the strategy that the nra has where they're not talking to the broad majority of people and not talking to people who are in the middle on this issue but only a narrow angry base and the more they do that, the more they risk marginalizing themselves in this discussion. >> you say it shouldn't be a surprise that the nra not support an assault weapons ban and what was seen as the least controversial aspect of this debate has been a universal background check looking at the polling even folk who is are members of the nra and who republicans seem to support that idea. wayne lapierre
and i don't think it's too surprising nra still opposed to any form of gun control. i actually thought that wayne lapierre's testimony which i have also seen is interesting because he seemed to back off some of the more incendiary rhetoric of other forums, most notably, the initial press conference lashing out at the left and the media and everybody else and peek like the hecklers in the hearing and don't speak for the republican party and don't speak for the nra but it's sort of a piece with...
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why is the nra adamant about there being no new laws? >> the nra primarily wants to sell guns. they represent gun manufacturers as well as citizens and that was not in wayne lapierre's statement. they like this conflict and want to create the fear that the government is going to come after guns because it sells more guns and it has across the country. the other thing is, they are stri dentally aposed to any restriction, they keep reporting this slippery slope argument. if there were any validity, we would have confiscated every gun because we've been working this for many years and the brady bill would have been a first step. that's a silly argument. people like mitch mcconnell are stoking it. in my state he put out an e-mail that was titled, they are coming to get your guns. that's how brazen some are them are. >> let me ask you about the specifics because we were talking about wayne lapierre's statement which he released yesterday. one of the things he said, no on universal background checks. i'm wondering what you feel the mood on the hill is right now and whether you think
why is the nra adamant about there being no new laws? >> the nra primarily wants to sell guns. they represent gun manufacturers as well as citizens and that was not in wayne lapierre's statement. they like this conflict and want to create the fear that the government is going to come after guns because it sells more guns and it has across the country. the other thing is, they are stri dentally aposed to any restriction, they keep reporting this slippery slope argument. if there were any...
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sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to have another newtown. i think constantly he has said shouldn't we be doing the best that we can be doing? shouldn't we try to have more effective gun safety laws? shouldn't we try to understand an interlinkage between violence in the media and violence in our cities and schools? >> i'm not faulting the president on either his messaging or his intent, but i think that sort of realistically when you look at things like the assault weapons ban, there's no evidence that the one that we had any impact. maybe it will do something different with it next time, but, many of the, the stuff that's within the kind o
sort of the nra checklist and the second amendment versus this drawing by this kid. that's a powerful image for these people. >> you have to remember the second amendment is still there, and the supreme court cases on it are still there, and he doesn't have any power to change that. >> nor is he trying to change it. >> no, but that really limits the scope of what he can do. >> i don't think the president has ever said we're going to do these things and never going to...
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i know a lot of members of the nra. i've thought about joining at one point. this is just happening way too frequently. we can't have another 20 first graders murdered in their classroom. >> lapierre has released the statement he plans to deliver today. unsurprising will he, he will denounce a proposed assault weapons ban. somewhat more surprisingly, he will come out aggressively against the background checks bill which a lot of folks thought the nra would quietly not fight too hard. he'll say this "law abiding gun owners will not accept blame for the acts of violent or deranges. criminals, have been around for over 100 years. background checks will never be universal because criminals will never submit to them." giffords and kelly will appear on the panel several weeks after they will launch an official lobbying effort called americans for responsible solutions. their group again reminded congress last night on their facebook page that after a string of mass shootings, that congress has failed to act on guns. also taking on lapierre today will be california s
i know a lot of members of the nra. i've thought about joining at one point. this is just happening way too frequently. we can't have another 20 first graders murdered in their classroom. >> lapierre has released the statement he plans to deliver today. unsurprising will he, he will denounce a proposed assault weapons ban. somewhat more surprisingly, he will come out aggressively against the background checks bill which a lot of folks thought the nra would quietly not fight too hard....
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we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. thanks for having me on the show. >> thank you for coming. >> frankly, we need leadership from all of our rep zen tifrs. and, you know, we demand courage from them. but, frankly, you know, it shouldn't take much courage to stand up to the nra. courage is, you know, facing down the barrel of a gun. and, you know, my daughter did that. and there were 16 other injured students at virginia tech who did that. and who stand with us in this area. you know, in my opinion, the nra should not even be at the table. i don't see reports from them. i do
we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton....
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interestingly enough on the nra among gun owners the nra's positive rating is 62%. among nongun owners 25%. will the nra's numbers hold after their decision to run a web video invoking the president's daughters? we were in the field before they put that video up and that controversy sparked up but more attacks like this one from new jersey governor chris christie aren't likely to make the nra more popular. >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have not by their own choice but by requirement to have protection and to use that somehow to try to make a political point i think is reprehensible. you see that kind of ad and you cringe. you cringe. because it's just not appropriate. >> finally speaking of the nra on wednesday former obama spokesman robert gibbs said the obama campaign organization would be heard from again. >> the president has the most exciting campaign apparatus ever built. it's time to turn that loose. >> right. >> it is time to turn that loose for something more than just an election, right? if the nra has a lis
interestingly enough on the nra among gun owners the nra's positive rating is 62%. among nongun owners 25%. will the nra's numbers hold after their decision to run a web video invoking the president's daughters? we were in the field before they put that video up and that controversy sparked up but more attacks like this one from new jersey governor chris christie aren't likely to make the nra more popular. >> to talk about the president's children or any public officer's children who have...
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when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and again trying to get the people most hopped up about it and think that one step is going to lead to another step is going to lead to rhetoric, like which is not really very temperate. it makes me feel like -- do you mean we shornt even discuss this, wait until the bodies pile a little bit higher? >> i don't know at what point. >> human beings have been stacked like hardwood, and theaters and schools have been turned into kill zones. we are having a moment nationally, locally, everywhere. if this isn't a good time and a right time to talk about both the value and the limits of the second amendment, i d
when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and...
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now, the nra talks about gun rights, but what about the rights of those people, sir? >> well, i think that we're at a unique moment in time. and, martin, we all know that we're now at the hard part. we know that we're at a moment where if we're ever going to get reasonable gun control measures, many of which were supported by president ronald reagan when he worked to pass the assault weapons ban in 1994 when the ban only passed by two votes, that we're going to have to act right now. i think programs like yours are essential to explain how hard this fight is going to be and how motivated every single person that has ever wanted to do anything about this issue needs to do it right now. the president has put his personal prestige behind trying to get this gun. the vice president has worked on common sense reforms, but everybody who is through anything like what you just n d named in cities and communities across the united states of america need to understand that this is going to be hard, tough, long and la boroborious, but it going to be worth it. >> congressman moran
now, the nra talks about gun rights, but what about the rights of those people, sir? >> well, i think that we're at a unique moment in time. and, martin, we all know that we're now at the hard part. we know that we're at a moment where if we're ever going to get reasonable gun control measures, many of which were supported by president ronald reagan when he worked to pass the assault weapons ban in 1994 when the ban only passed by two votes, that we're going to have to act right now. i...
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the nra not giving an inch. wayne lapierre got in a heated exchange with senators durbin and leahy over background checks. and he made clear the nra would not give an inch on that issue. let's watch. >> we got to get in the real world on what works and what doesn't work. my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there'll be a background check. we'll stop them from the original purchase. you missed that point completely. i think it's basic. >> senator, i think you missed -- >> let there be order! >> i think you're missing it. >> please wait. as i said earlier, there will be order. >> and the chair of the judiciary committee patrick leahy also tried to pin down lapierre on the same issue. background checks. >> should we have mandatory background checks at gun shows? >> if you're a dealer, that's already the law. >> that's not my question. i'm not trying to
the nra not giving an inch. wayne lapierre got in a heated exchange with senators durbin and leahy over background checks. and he made clear the nra would not give an inch on that issue. let's watch. >> we got to get in the real world on what works and what doesn't work. my problem with background checks is you're never going to get criminals to go through universal background checks. >> mr. lapierre, that's the point. the criminals won't go to purchase the guns because there'll be...
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the blood-drenched lobbyist for the nra actually quoted a liberal supreme court justice in making his case last night. i will show you tonight why wayne lapierre was absolutely wrong about that supreme court justice and why he is absolutely wrong about the second amendment. and dear friend of the show here tonight to talk about what the president's inaugural address meant to him. and anything else george wants to talk about it whenever he wants to talk about it. [ mom ] a new game? that'll save the day. so will bounty select-a-size. it's the smaller powerful sheet. look! one select-a-size sheet of bounty is 50% more absorbent than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. use less, with bounty select-a-size. than a full size sheet of the leading ordinary brand. so, i'm working on a cistern intake valve, and the guy hands me a locknut wrench. no way! i'm like, what is this, a drainpipe slipknot? wherever your business takes you, nobody keeps you on the road like progressive commercial auto. [ flo speaking japanese ] [ shouting in japanese ] we work wherever you work. now, that's
the blood-drenched lobbyist for the nra actually quoted a liberal supreme court justice in making his case last night. i will show you tonight why wayne lapierre was absolutely wrong about that supreme court justice and why he is absolutely wrong about the second amendment. and dear friend of the show here tonight to talk about what the president's inaugural address meant to him. and anything else george wants to talk about it whenever he wants to talk about it. [ mom ] a new game? that'll save...
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the blood-drenched lobbyist for the nra actually quoted a liberal supreme court justice in making his case last night. i will show you tonight why wayne lapierre was absolutely wrong about that supreme court justice and why he is absolutely wrong about the second amendment. and dear friend of the show here tonight to talk about what the president's inaugural address meant to him. and anything else george wants to talk about it whenever he wants to talk about it. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] time and sales data. split-second stats. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ it's so close to the options floor... [ indistinct shouting, bell dinging ] ...you'll bust your brain box. ♪ all on thinkorswim from td ameritrade. ♪ . >>> coming up, j
the blood-drenched lobbyist for the nra actually quoted a liberal supreme court justice in making his case last night. i will show you tonight why wayne lapierre was absolutely wrong about that supreme court justice and why he is absolutely wrong about the second amendment. and dear friend of the show here tonight to talk about what the president's inaugural address meant to him. and anything else george wants to talk about it whenever he wants to talk about it. [ man ] ring ring... progresso...
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that's what nra stands for. and they're not really engaged in a serious discussion about what's going on in the streets of america each and every day. and whether it's new town or aurora or philadelphia big city, small city, in the city, in the suburbs, in rural areas, these are serious matters. and we have to be serious about them. >> since you said they're not really as constitute, let me show you some that are being extreme as you've talked about common sense and reasonably coming to common ground. rocker ted nugent compared gun owners to rosa parks. he told the web site "world net daily," quote, there will come a time when the gun owners of america, the law-abiding gun owners of america will be the rosa parks and we will sit down on the front seat of the bus. case closed. i wonder if he's off his rocker, pun intended. >>> but then you have yesterday, the judge report showed pictures of hitler and stalin next to a link on the white house considering executive action on gun control. i mean, these are, like, wa
that's what nra stands for. and they're not really engaged in a serious discussion about what's going on in the streets of america each and every day. and whether it's new town or aurora or philadelphia big city, small city, in the city, in the suburbs, in rural areas, these are serious matters. and we have to be serious about them. >> since you said they're not really as constitute, let me show you some that are being extreme as you've talked about common sense and reasonably coming to...
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> deet spite a lot of the nra -- the nra has a 41% favorability rating. you are right that it's a lot more favorable than some people might anticipate, and it's also been very stable. these numbers are almost identical to what we saw in 2011. of course, that was two years before the newtown shootings. the nra's negative numbers. the nra is in a better position heading into this fight than it was ten years ago. >> we talk about brands, chris alissa, the nra brand has been fairly toxic in many of the debates, the gun debates especially since newtown, but their membership base is broad and deep. is that where you read from this? >> i would say two things to take from it. one, andrea, and mark makes this point. one is that, look, the nra i think inside the beltway and in big cities in this country is akin to a curse word. it is not in the vast majority of the country. there is a disconnect that exists here about the nra. the second thing, and you hit on it, which is right, this is a membership organization four million strong. they continue to add members in
> deet spite a lot of the nra -- the nra has a 41% favorability rating. you are right that it's a lot more favorable than some people might anticipate, and it's also been very stable. these numbers are almost identical to what we saw in 2011. of course, that was two years before the newtown shootings. the nra's negative numbers. the nra is in a better position heading into this fight than it was ten years ago. >> we talk about brands, chris alissa, the nra brand has been fairly toxic...
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he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you have one force that doesn't want to do anything. you have i think one force on the other side that wants to do a lot. and then the middle is what is that compromise? what is that reasonable thing that can pass? that's where it gets really difficult. >> absolutely. and we know the emotions involved and we have watched hearings, for example, in connecticut with the family members of children who were killed and spouses who were killed and the newtown massacre. you know, you have the president talking about chicago and today rahm emanuel, the mayor of chica
he obviously is, you know, very strong supporter of the nra. and, you know, guns and the role of guns in west virginia is different than, let's say, some other parts of the country but all that being said i think he looks at it in terms of what can we do that is reasonable and can pass. i think from -- you know, his style is to work with republicans and democrats to kind of try to come up with common sense reforms. the difficulty said in terms of doing that is you have kind of three forces. you...
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to give a sense of how it matched up, mark kelly and wayne la pierre, the ceo of the nra outlined the essence of the hearing. >> gabby and i are pro gun ownership. we are also anti-gun violence. rights demand responsibility. this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals and it does not extend to the mentally ill. when dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable. >> a third of our schools right now have armed security already because it works. more gun laws while failing to enforce the thousands we already have is not a serious solution for reducing crime. proposals that only serve to burden the law-abiding will fail again in the future. >> only a couple of times did wane la pierre get into it with a member of the committee. over the hours, it was a reasonable back and forth. it was not the fireworks that some people might have expected. while he opposes the universal background checks, he came with an argument to make saying over and over again, there not prosecutions of laws that are on the books, trying to put the pressure back on the justice departm
to give a sense of how it matched up, mark kelly and wayne la pierre, the ceo of the nra outlined the essence of the hearing. >> gabby and i are pro gun ownership. we are also anti-gun violence. rights demand responsibility. this right does not extend to terrorists. it does not extend to criminals and it does not extend to the mentally ill. when dangerous people get guns, we are all vulnerable. >> a third of our schools right now have armed security already because it works. more...
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eight out of ten nra members support universal background checks. who is wayne lapierre speaking for? >> the gun manufacturers, of course. it's not the first time that we have had a big lobbying organization in washington that purports to represent a grassroots or a local membership, but is in fact doing the bidding of a very, very big interests. probably the most prominent example of that is the u.s. chamber of commerce, which purports to represent small businesses across the country, but in fact is the mouthpiece for global multinational huge corporations. so that's nothing new to anybody watching these hearings take place in washington. >> senator sheldon whitehouse, good to have you with us tonight on "the ed show." you know, if you want a good example of the cultural divide that we have in this country. they're raffling off 200 guns, including three ar-15 assault rifles. perfectly legal. it is their biggest fundraiser of the year. this is just another day at the office for how to raise money for youth sports in the middle of the country. now, w
eight out of ten nra members support universal background checks. who is wayne lapierre speaking for? >> the gun manufacturers, of course. it's not the first time that we have had a big lobbying organization in washington that purports to represent a grassroots or a local membership, but is in fact doing the bidding of a very, very big interests. probably the most prominent example of that is the u.s. chamber of commerce, which purports to represent small businesses across the country,...
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the nra was saying if we don't have this bill then gun companies will go bankrupt but that's not true. we need to go forward and correct this and hagel could take a really important step in doing that by going forward and saying the pentagon is reversing its position on this. >> sam kleiner from slate. people can read the article. it's fascinating. thank you so much. something we didn't think about what's going on now on capitol hill, the hearing that is ongoing for chuck hagel. that is going to wrap up this how. i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. good morning, thomas. >> hi, chris. good morning to you. good morning, everybody. we will continue following what's taking place in washington, d.c., right now. on the agenda much more of chuck hagel facing critics, republican and democrat and what are the odds of him getting confirmed? we have an all-star lineup for you, host of "the ed show" will join me, the co-host of "the cycle" will be here and one of hagel's staunchest supporters, john kerry. police taking out the underground bunker where a 6-year-old boy is being held host
the nra was saying if we don't have this bill then gun companies will go bankrupt but that's not true. we need to go forward and correct this and hagel could take a really important step in doing that by going forward and saying the pentagon is reversing its position on this. >> sam kleiner from slate. people can read the article. it's fascinating. thank you so much. something we didn't think about what's going on now on capitol hill, the hearing that is ongoing for chuck hagel. that is...
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the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started with the election of a black president. >> how so? connect. >> let's remember that in 2008 obama had campaigned for his first election being afraid to mention the words gun and law in the same paragraph. he never said a single thing about gun control, gun safety laws. yet when he was elected, gun stores sold out of guns. gun stores sold out of ammunition because the gun lobby had persuaded them that this guy is coming for your guns. they're already paranoid, extremist -- >> let's get to that overlay. >> they don't like progressive, democratic administrati
the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started...
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. >> i noticed that the nra and their people keep using obama as this selling tool. they keep putting him in magazines and acting like he wants to take away your guns so you have to buy as many guns as possible. he's only, to this point, been a friend to the nra and expanded where we can carry guns. but these have been the best-selling tool that they've ever had. >> if you look at if nra, they sent out a fund raising letter right after this started saying -- and i'm quoting from the letter, nra fund-raising letter today about president obama's supposed real goal on gun control. the letter says the main goal of the gun banners in congress is not to make school safer, but to ban your guns. and, david, they come with this, well, we need to have our guns in case the government comes in to take -- first of all, if the government came in to take our guns, do you think they're going to knock on the door and try to take it with an automatic weapon for automatic weapon? it would certainly be a lot more ammunition than an automatic weapon couldn't fight the government. so it's
. >> i noticed that the nra and their people keep using obama as this selling tool. they keep putting him in magazines and acting like he wants to take away your guns so you have to buy as many guns as possible. he's only, to this point, been a friend to the nra and expanded where we can carry guns. but these have been the best-selling tool that they've ever had. >> if you look at if nra, they sent out a fund raising letter right after this started saying -- and i'm quoting from the...
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and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think right now there is a great deal of turmoil, for reasons that krystal discussed, because of the pressure that we've seen for gun control in this country. >> let's listen to a point that dick durbin made. >> we need the fire power and the ability to protect -- ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors and we need to fight back, do you agree with that point of view? >> if you look at why the founding fathers put it there, they lived under the tyranny, and didn't want to live under tyranny. >> chief johnson, you have heard it. the belief that the nra as a sec
and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think...
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the nra met it's worst nightmare today and his name is joe biden. >> the nra is a friend of freedom. >> i want to thank the national rifle association. >> they do a terrific job. >> we have the craziest people. >> too much weaponry in all the wrong hands. >> but there are also thing that is we know. >> he has a lot of friends on the hill. >> the vice president's task force powwow. >> there is no room. >> not to give an inch of ground. >> there is no room for compromise. >> we have another school shooting in taft, california at the same moment the nra is at the white house. >> they want chain jooth it is simple. >> more guns are not the answer. >> no one hunts with an assault rifle. >> the newtown tragedy, tucson and the movie theater massacres. >> is part of what sets america apart from the rest of the world. >> he called for armed guards ip scho in schools. >> call me crazy, you sir, are [ bleep ] in the head. >> as vice president joe biden was conducting a meeting at the white house today, a 16-year-old student was shot today when a student walked into the school and started firing
the nra met it's worst nightmare today and his name is joe biden. >> the nra is a friend of freedom. >> i want to thank the national rifle association. >> they do a terrific job. >> we have the craziest people. >> too much weaponry in all the wrong hands. >> but there are also thing that is we know. >> he has a lot of friends on the hill. >> the vice president's task force powwow. >> there is no room. >> not to give an inch of ground....
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the case he hoped to make for banning gun control bolstered the nra. so it is the minutia of the footnotes and the insider turned the discourse on guns in america. so in the heat of the debate, everyone has an opinion, but not everyone knows the inside game. i want to know what are the political footnotes that we should be checking if we want to get the are real scoop on what is happening in d.c., so let's play some small ball with folks who know the inside of washington, d.c. with me is marian wright edelman, founder and president of the children's defense fund and also mayor mark klinechman who is author of "against guns. ooh" and also, a parent whose daughter was shot and injured in the mass shooting in va tech in 1997 in which 32 people were murdered. and amy walter who is senior editor of the "cook report." thank you all for being here. amy, i want to thastart with yo because the biggest part of being a inside is knowing what questions you should ask, so as gun control, what should we be asking? >> well, as washington insider with retalk about the
the case he hoped to make for banning gun control bolstered the nra. so it is the minutia of the footnotes and the insider turned the discourse on guns in america. so in the heat of the debate, everyone has an opinion, but not everyone knows the inside game. i want to know what are the political footnotes that we should be checking if we want to get the are real scoop on what is happening in d.c., so let's play some small ball with folks who know the inside of washington, d.c. with me is marian...
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the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buy-back program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoon h cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to voluntarily? that is an exercise in shark jump
the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buy-back program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not...
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the nra is the extremist in the room. when you start doing hitler and stalin, i think responsible common sense americans turn off. this is too extreme. this will appeal to the extremists in this country, but we want to speak to those who understand the need for common-sense legislation. the president and vice president biden are trying to put together a common sense package that police chiefs in this country, that mayors, that others who have to deal day to day with these illegal guns want to see. if the president and vice president have a congress that will not move on this, and it may well not, executive action is not out of order. it is not out of order. >> i really praise the vice president for saying that today, because that tells the anti-s over there, look, we're serious about this. we're going to do something about it. what kind of executive action could he take? how far could the president go on this? and of course he's got the mayor's organization behind him. he would get a lot of support around the country. >>
the nra is the extremist in the room. when you start doing hitler and stalin, i think responsible common sense americans turn off. this is too extreme. this will appeal to the extremists in this country, but we want to speak to those who understand the need for common-sense legislation. the president and vice president biden are trying to put together a common sense package that police chiefs in this country, that mayors, that others who have to deal day to day with these illegal guns want to...
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we can't let the nra block meaningful gun legislation. i'm joined tonight by two parents who are advocating for change. sandy and lonnie phillips lost their daughter, jessica gauwi in a mass shooting in aurora seven months ago. jessica was just 24 years old. she wanted to be a sportscaster. so she moved to colorado in 2010 to go to metro state, metropolitan state university in denver. she survived a mass shooting at a food court in toronto. but she was among the 12 people murdered in the shooting at the movie theater in aurora this past july. sandy and lonnie, i want to thank you so much for joining us here this evening and being a part of the discussion. lonnie, you met with the president, with vice president biden recently. what did you tell him? >> well, there were about 23 groups at that meeting, and i was sitting directly to his left, and he started to his right. each member of all the groups that were there, there were a lot of very astute people, and he listened to each one of them very carefully and wrote -- made notes. it went ar
we can't let the nra block meaningful gun legislation. i'm joined tonight by two parents who are advocating for change. sandy and lonnie phillips lost their daughter, jessica gauwi in a mass shooting in aurora seven months ago. jessica was just 24 years old. she wanted to be a sportscaster. so she moved to colorado in 2010 to go to metro state, metropolitan state university in denver. she survived a mass shooting at a food court in toronto. but she was among the 12 people murdered in the...
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nra. 41% think of them positively, 34% negative. hollywood think 23% favorable, 46% negatively. we talked before about lance armstrong and pr. clearly the nra has got a pr challenge here. how do you think they've done so far since newtown in positioning themselves to be strong in this fight? >> why are you looking at me, mark? >> i'm just starting with you randomly. i went alphabetical. >> yeah, the nra has had good days and bad days in this. and actually, that depends how you look at it. even when the nra has a bad day and the media is calling them too aggressive, that's a good day for the nra. that usually ends up working in their favor in terms of membership. but, you know, i think the politics of maligning the nra is probably not a strategically good idea. that poll, for example, showing the favorability numbers, gun sales have skyrocketed, there's been an urgency to vilify the nra. for example, there's an ad out right now, one of a dozen, maligning a congressman named john barrow, a d
nra. 41% think of them positively, 34% negative. hollywood think 23% favorable, 46% negatively. we talked before about lance armstrong and pr. clearly the nra has got a pr challenge here. how do you think they've done so far since newtown in positioning themselves to be strong in this fight? >> why are you looking at me, mark? >> i'm just starting with you randomly. i went alphabetical. >> yeah, the nra has had good days and bad days in this. and actually, that depends how you...
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. >> i'm assuming clarence you include heritage alongside with the nra and others? >> certainly then ra has become an organization whose members are gun owners but the money comes from the gun industry. >> right. >> heritage didn't quite there yet, but they do get a lot of contributions from corporations that benefit from their work. >> okay. now, luke, the gang of eight's mike lee, who owns a 99% score from heritage, won't now back the group's immigration plan. last year they saw heritage threaten to score an amendment banning high capacity clips. what makes grading systems like this one so powerful? >> well, i think primarily is that if you fail to get a good grade with heritage action, you are essentially a target for a primary. if you look at the way they do this, it's a very effective grading system in terms of trying to appeal to conservative media and to conservative grassroots activists. you can say that someone like maybe not eric cantor, but someone in more of a district where he doesn't have the financial backing that eric cantor might have, oh, my god, t
. >> i'm assuming clarence you include heritage alongside with the nra and others? >> certainly then ra has become an organization whose members are gun owners but the money comes from the gun industry. >> right. >> heritage didn't quite there yet, but they do get a lot of contributions from corporations that benefit from their work. >> okay. now, luke, the gang of eight's mike lee, who owns a 99% score from heritage, won't now back the group's immigration plan....
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a very proud member of the nra. with an "a" rating, said it's time for us and the nra to look at ourselves and make shchanome changes. a lot of people thought that might open up a larger discussion. that hasn't necessarily happened. we haven't seen a lot of people line up behind joe manchin to look at the nra and say hey, we need to moderate ourselves or we need to be at least open to some change. so do you think at this moment that this time is different, or has the moment passed in some ways? >> you know, i think we are living in a time when there is slightly a culture of instant amnesia where -- and maybe it's to do with the amount of media we have access to. it's like we gorge ourselves on a story, and then after a few days, it's gone. and that happens, unfortunately, at a policy level but also from a viewer level. and so the urgency seems so intense at the time. and it certainly did -- i was up in newtown for four days at the time, and it seemed like the whole country was focused on this. you had not just manch
a very proud member of the nra. with an "a" rating, said it's time for us and the nra to look at ourselves and make shchanome changes. a lot of people thought that might open up a larger discussion. that hasn't necessarily happened. we haven't seen a lot of people line up behind joe manchin to look at the nra and say hey, we need to moderate ourselves or we need to be at least open to some change. so do you think at this moment that this time is different, or has the moment passed in...
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nra executive vice president wayne lapierre will testify before the senate today and has released his prepared remarks which, in part, read, quote, when it comes to the issue of background checks, let's be honest. background checks will never be "universal" because criminals will never submit to them. meanwhile, this morning, "the new york times" is reporting that despite chicago's strict gun laws, the city is still struggling to control its gun violence -- guns attributed to more than 500 homicides last year alone in the windy city with at least 40 killings already reported this year. we were talking about this earlier, joe. how do you think this is going to pan out as we look forward on guns? something that you're stepping into a bit yourself. >> well, i think it's great news that you have tom coburn, an oklahoma conservative, who's been a champion on a lot of conservative issues coming out and supporting universal background checks. now, this should be a very simple, obvious thing for politicians on both sides of the aisle to do since 90% of americans support these universal backgr
nra executive vice president wayne lapierre will testify before the senate today and has released his prepared remarks which, in part, read, quote, when it comes to the issue of background checks, let's be honest. background checks will never be "universal" because criminals will never submit to them. meanwhile, this morning, "the new york times" is reporting that despite chicago's strict gun laws, the city is still struggling to control its gun violence -- guns attributed...
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maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >> captain mark kelly, thank you very much. we wish you the best of luck in your efforts. >> thank you, mika. thank you, joe. >> thanks for being on the show. >> thank you, captain. and please give our best to your wife. what courageous testimony yesterday. >> it was. it was incredible to hear from her. it said it all. it really did, in very few words. this issue, though, we were talking about generals coming forward, colin powell, different people on our show, and politicians who are moving toward trying to get either bans on assault weapons or background checks for stricter regulation
maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >>...
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. >> you know i hope what happens, had he testifies in the committee tomorrow is that the nra presses him on the second amendment. does that mean that citizens should be able to have massive fire power to fight a future government. they would lose credibility with their own base. there is a real dangerous
. >> you know i hope what happens, had he testifies in the committee tomorrow is that the nra presses him on the second amendment. does that mean that citizens should be able to have massive fire power to fight a future government. they would lose credibility with their own base. there is a real dangerous
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they ought to be listening to people like that mother, not the nra, not the gun makers, not the right wing pun dants. we should listen to a mother who lost all four of her children, her son, rodney, now joins the list of more than 1300 people gunned down just since the newtown massacre last month. we must build a nation where people are valued more than partisan politics. where flesh and blood means more than dollars and cents. we can not have a
they ought to be listening to people like that mother, not the nra, not the gun makers, not the right wing pun dants. we should listen to a mother who lost all four of her children, her son, rodney, now joins the list of more than 1300 people gunned down just since the newtown massacre last month. we must build a nation where people are valued more than partisan politics. where flesh and blood means more than dollars and cents. we can not have a
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the nra is for background checks. the nra will say they are for something and ruin it by all these amendments as they did with the first assault weapon ban and said we are not going to do this because it doesn't work. after they foil it. you think there would be a respite. newtown did make a difference. the financeurs that you know and the 500 points that mika brings up, why is not the business community and because you are not one, you are a former treasurer, 'they not more proobama? democrats help more than republicans. >> let's put up for wall street. you think that wall street would love president obama because it's been a heck of a ride for them. >> every time i see that, i have that exact thing. >> i have the numbers. >> i think it's the largest increase of any president. that's almost double since he became president. some of the rhetoric and the substance that happened over the last four years, business is not in his corner. it changed a lot when the president and the stupid party decided they wanted to go nea
the nra is for background checks. the nra will say they are for something and ruin it by all these amendments as they did with the first assault weapon ban and said we are not going to do this because it doesn't work. after they foil it. you think there would be a respite. newtown did make a difference. the financeurs that you know and the 500 points that mika brings up, why is not the business community and because you are not one, you are a former treasurer, 'they not more proobama? democrats...
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the thing we have right now is the nra has always been this powerhouse organization, which has been a lot more money than actual action. what you have now is a countervailing force where you can actually have a grassroots effort to get people to call their members of congress, to put some pressure on them, and actually get something done from the outside. and i just came from the new republic launch party. as the president told the new republic, you know, you've got to get the change from the outside in, or else it's never going to happen. and if people don't call their members of congress and say to the ones who disagree with this policy, you've got to move or you're going to pay a political price. and tell the ones who do agree with the policy, great, thank you, keep pushing because we need this right now. >> but the first time they are employing it, they sent out a couple of e-mails essentially saying we're doing this thing. this is the first time they have tried to apply it on a policy matter. you have to admit the timing was ridiculous. >> well. >> that makes me feel like there m
the thing we have right now is the nra has always been this powerhouse organization, which has been a lot more money than actual action. what you have now is a countervailing force where you can actually have a grassroots effort to get people to call their members of congress, to put some pressure on them, and actually get something done from the outside. and i just came from the new republic launch party. as the president told the new republic, you know, you've got to get the change from the...
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. >> you know i hope what happens, had he testifies in the committee tomorrow is that the nra presses him on the second amendment. does that mean that citizens should be able to have massive fire power to fight a future government. they would lose credibility with their own base. there is a real dangerous current fed on the internet and youtube, of people talking very threatening violent language about what would happen if congress were to impose an assault-weapons ban, and other gun control measures like that father outline, which was quite well said. and i think mr. lapierre needs to address that, including even the conspiracy theories that are circulating among gun rights activists, who claim that the
. >> you know i hope what happens, had he testifies in the committee tomorrow is that the nra presses him on the second amendment. does that mean that citizens should be able to have massive fire power to fight a future government. they would lose credibility with their own base. there is a real dangerous current fed on the internet and youtube, of people talking very threatening violent language about what would happen if congress were to impose an assault-weapons ban, and other gun...